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Re: More issues with RC2

markjmeans
 

Hi Andrew,

 

  1. Open Office is a glaring example of why being unconcerned about OS guidelines is somehow a reason to not be concerned about a given OS’s guidelines. Open Office does honor the default page format in Windows; and it supports multiple cultures; and it supports multi-OS. I have felt for some time now that PCGen considers Windows as something that needs no particular attention to standard Windows patterns and practices and is mostly only supported because Java happens to support it. The responses to this and other issues I’ve brought up in the last several months do little to assuage that feeling. It may simply be that there are no Windows centric developers to take on the mantle to assure that Windows guidelines are honored with conditional compilation code segments where appropriately divergent from Unix-isms. I completely understand that this is a volunteer project. But everyone in the PCGen development team is surely aware that this project appears to be in a slow death (fewer and fewer volunteers) precisely because Windows users (the largest desktop segment) is going to Hero Lab and other software due to the perceived buggy nature or usability issues (deserved or not) of PCGen. I don’t want that to happen. I would like to see what is probably the projects largest user segment to be so happy with the core usability of PCGen that we attract many new volunteers. That extends to the code team as well. From what I’ve seen so far that the new formula parser is evolutionary. But to get new volunteer coders you must first get their attention. And that becomes more difficult as the audience declines.

 

  1. The issue with this is not that a homebrew is broken. It is that PCGen gives no useful error message to tell someone WHERE it is broken. In my case, this homebrew is little more than a huge multi-set and commenting out all the lines in the PCC file to find out which line is causing the issue is something that no other homebrew user *should* have to do. The error message for the load failure should be enough to find out what the issue was. In this case, after uninstalling PCGEN and reinstalling and making sure to select the _universal and the other _xxx entry the error did not recur.

 

  1. As for the source. Like I said I know very little about Java programming, and less about the specific coding in PCGen. For me to spend, probably hours, digging through PCGen to understand its internal structure enough to submit a PR for the code is ridiculous on its face. The chance that I could even attempt to identify a fix that would not have unintended consequences without such study is presumptuous at best.

 

As for the remainder of your comment… Try developing two different programs, pascal and C, at the same time. The languages are so close in syntax you quickly get mired in the peculiarities of the two and spend a lot of time bug-fixing and referring to API docs. This is not efficient coding. Efficient coding is 100+ lines of debugged functioning code per hour per developer, not 700+ lines of code per month per developer. As an example, in the summer of 2005 I started writing a Windows XP application that was ready for deployment in 9 months. It had over 100,000 lines of code (comprising modules written in VB, C++, and 8051 assembler), not counting auto generated code from UI creation tools I used. And not counting the code from the early parts of the project that were deleted or replaced as it was being developed. There was only myself and one other developer working on this project. I produced 95+% of the VB code (the bulk of the application), perhaps 10-15% of the C++ code (high level USB driver interfaces, the other guy did the low level part). You need a singleness of mind and concentration to produce debugged code at that rate. My primary focus now is C# programming on multiple projects with a huge combined code base, and I am the only developer. I cannot afford to get distracted by a similar syntaxed and structured language. Now if PCGen had been written in Cobol, RPG, Fortran, LISP or ASSEMBLER (all of which I have programmed in), then that would be something else entirely as they are all completely different coding syntax and style and could never be confused with C++, C# or Java.

 

As for JIRA, I wanted to post on the forums first (specifically the null error message issue and the font issue) to see if anyone else (not developers) encountered the same problem. Anyone with JAVA SDK development tools checking it might not encounter the same error if the problem was related to the JRE set installed in windows installer version of PCGen. But I suppose there are so few Windows users who subscribe to the forums or perhaps all other Windows users just all the data sets (by default). I don’t know. Either way, a confirmation of an error on a non-JDK installed machine could have identified the problem. In my case, while the null error went away when I uninstalled and reinstalled (as I identified above) this is not confirmation of the cause since I have not again uninstalled and reinstalled without selecting _universal to confirm that the problem returns since it is completely irrelevant if _universal should not be able to be deselected in the first place.

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

From: main@pcgen.groups.io <main@pcgen.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Maitland via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:05 PM
To: main@pcgen.groups.io
Subject: Re: [pcgen] More issues with RC2

 

Hi Mark,

1) Not being a program meant to be specific to a particular OS, I'm not overly concerned about this. A "critical" or "blocker" bug is classified as - Did it break the program or did we lose major core functionality? I wouldn't release an RC3 for a mere glitch for Windows not being able to figure out the program is an RC2 vs. RC1. I am going to do an RC3 for several fixes/features that were discovered missing that I feel should make the 6.08.00 release, but not because Windows has issues. If you felt this is important enough to warrant concern why haven't you opened a bug for it?

2) I don't control HOMEBREW sources, anything I cannot control is irrelevant to our release schedule. We have a support team on Discord and here to assist you update your out-of-date set. FEAT is an illegal tag, and should have been converted to ABILITY back in 6.06.00 if not sooner. The team focuses on things we control and manage. If you want support for your homebrew, ask for the help, and we will gladly tell you what you need to update/change/convert to be compliant with the current version.

3) As #1 states, we are an OS Neutral Program. Coding in OS specific settings requires folks who have the knowledge. I have *NEVER* had an issue creating PDFs nor printing them, and I have been using PCGen for 17 years. Merely set your paper settings in the preferences and you'll be fine.

To tag onto Stefan's comment, if you won't do the code, at least point out a source that our team can reference to tackle the issue. I've always held to a principle of point out the problem and a potential solution if possible. I wasn't aware that cross-training in multiple languages was considered a detriment. And for actual bugs, we have a BUG tracker system located here --> https://pcgenorg.atlassian.net where all the issues can be discussed or solutions presented.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 12/14/2018 10:30 AM, markjmeans wrote:

  1. The Windows uninstall entry in Windows > Settings > Apps & Features lists PCGen as �6.08.00RC1� as the product name and shows nothing for program title or version number. What is expected is that the program name, version number and publisher name fields be defined correctly in the installer so that the uninstall process follows Windows guidelines and is intuitive to Windows users. In my opinion this is a critical bug that should delay release until resolved. However, it should be a very simple one to fix. It�s a 30 second task using Microsoft installer projects within MS Visual Studio and I will assume it�s nearly as simple using the nullsoft installer that PCGen uses (but I have no experience with nullsoft installer projects). Whomever wrote the installer project should examine the project properties and correct them. This fix alone should require an RC3 version before going ahead to full release.
  2. A homebrew set that loads in RC1 will not load in RC2. See attached homebrew files. The error log does not indicate specifically what is wrong, i.e. doesn�t say which campaign is unable to load.

10:46:09.847 INFO main Main:138 Starting PCGen v6.08.00 RC2

10:46:09.967 INFO main LanguageBundle:134 Initialising language bundle with locale en_US.

10:46:19.673 LSTWARN main CampaignFeatToken:56 FEAT has been deprecated, use ABILITY: and put CATEGORY: entries in the LST file

10:46:51.613 SEVERE Thread-2 SourceFileLoader:248 Failed to load sources

pcgen.persistence.PersistenceLayerException: You must select at least one campaign to load.

��������������� at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.loadCampaigns(SourceFileLoader.java:482)

��������������� at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.execute(SourceFileLoader.java:244)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:72)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:40)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.SwingWorker$1.run(SwingWorker.java:160)

��������������� at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

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And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don�t know how many sheets of paper I�ve wasted because of this.

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Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Edward Beckwith
 

Thank you all for your assistance.


Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Andrew Maitland
 

Attached is an updated folder to replace.


Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Andrew Maitland
 

I can add a Bonus if you'd like. That's easy enough to manage.

On 12/15/2018 4:09 PM, Andrew Maitland via Groups.Io wrote:

5e has no skill points. You cannot add any "ranks" since it's a rankless system.

Skills are determined by bonuses  - Proficiency Bonus, double that for Expertise, then your Ability Score Bonus/Penalty, and then misc bonuses that might arise.


Is your GM granting you a Bonus to a particular skill?

Cheers,

Andrew


On 12/15/2018 3:54 PM, Paul Grosse via Groups.Io wrote:
Misc i think, one of the sections should be GM awards. Unless it wasn't implemented for 5e


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Edward Beckwith
under feats and abilities, I see 4 tabs, feats, character, misc, and rules. in rules, I see the ability to add a skill proficiency, but no skill bonus. 

--
--Paul Grosse
--PCGen BoD, PR Silverback
@Nylanfs

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Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Edward Beckwith
 

looks like GM awards is not there for 5e. I also can't select any Temporary bonuses, I'll have to dig around to figure out how to create a template that adds a skill bonus. Thanks


Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Andrew Maitland
 

5e has no skill points. You cannot add any "ranks" since it's a rankless system.

Skills are determined by bonuses  - Proficiency Bonus, double that for Expertise, then your Ability Score Bonus/Penalty, and then misc bonuses that might arise.


Is your GM granting you a Bonus to a particular skill?

Cheers,

Andrew


On 12/15/2018 3:54 PM, Paul Grosse via Groups.Io wrote:
Misc i think, one of the sections should be GM awards. Unless it wasn't implemented for 5e


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Edward Beckwith
under feats and abilities, I see 4 tabs, feats, character, misc, and rules. in rules, I see the ability to add a skill proficiency, but no skill bonus. 

--
--Paul Grosse
--PCGen BoD, PR Silverback
@Nylanfs

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: More issues with RC2

Andrew Maitland
 

Hi Mark,

1) Not being a program meant to be specific to a particular OS, I'm not overly concerned about this. A "critical" or "blocker" bug is classified as - Did it break the program or did we lose major core functionality? I wouldn't release an RC3 for a mere glitch for Windows not being able to figure out the program is an RC2 vs. RC1. I am going to do an RC3 for several fixes/features that were discovered missing that I feel should make the 6.08.00 release, but not because Windows has issues. If you felt this is important enough to warrant concern why haven't you opened a bug for it?

2) I don't control HOMEBREW sources, anything I cannot control is irrelevant to our release schedule. We have a support team on Discord and here to assist you update your out-of-date set. FEAT is an illegal tag, and should have been converted to ABILITY back in 6.06.00 if not sooner. The team focuses on things we control and manage. If you want support for your homebrew, ask for the help, and we will gladly tell you what you need to update/change/convert to be compliant with the current version.

3) As #1 states, we are an OS Neutral Program. Coding in OS specific settings requires folks who have the knowledge. I have *NEVER* had an issue creating PDFs nor printing them, and I have been using PCGen for 17 years. Merely set your paper settings in the preferences and you'll be fine.

To tag onto Stefan's comment, if you won't do the code, at least point out a source that our team can reference to tackle the issue. I've always held to a principle of point out the problem and a potential solution if possible. I wasn't aware that cross-training in multiple languages was considered a detriment. And for actual bugs, we have a BUG tracker system located here --> https://pcgenorg.atlassian.net where all the issues can be discussed or solutions presented.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 12/14/2018 10:30 AM, markjmeans wrote:
  1. The Windows uninstall entry in Windows > Settings > Apps & Features lists PCGen as �6.08.00RC1� as the product name and shows nothing for program title or version number. What is expected is that the program name, version number and publisher name fields be defined correctly in the installer so that the uninstall process follows Windows guidelines and is intuitive to Windows users. In my opinion this is a critical bug that should delay release until resolved. However, it should be a very simple one to fix. It�s a 30 second task using Microsoft installer projects within MS Visual Studio and I will assume it�s nearly as simple using the nullsoft installer that PCGen uses (but I have no experience with nullsoft installer projects). Whomever wrote the installer project should examine the project properties and correct them. This fix alone should require an RC3 version before going ahead to full release.
  2. A homebrew set that loads in RC1 will not load in RC2. See attached homebrew files. The error log does not indicate specifically what is wrong, i.e. doesn�t say which campaign is unable to load.

10:46:09.847 INFO main Main:138 Starting PCGen v6.08.00 RC2

10:46:09.967 INFO main LanguageBundle:134 Initialising language bundle with locale en_US.

10:46:19.673 LSTWARN main CampaignFeatToken:56 FEAT has been deprecated, use ABILITY: and put CATEGORY: entries in the LST file

10:46:51.613 SEVERE Thread-2 SourceFileLoader:248 Failed to load sources

pcgen.persistence.PersistenceLayerException: You must select at least one campaign to load.

��������������� at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.loadCampaigns(SourceFileLoader.java:482)

��������������� at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.execute(SourceFileLoader.java:244)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:72)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:40)

��������������� at pcgen.gui2.util.SwingWorker$1.run(SwingWorker.java:160)

��������������� at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

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And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don�t know how many sheets of paper I�ve wasted because of this.

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Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Paul Grosse
 

Misc i think, one of the sections should be GM awards. Unless it wasn't implemented for 5e


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Edward Beckwith
<lordq42@...> wrote:
under feats and abilities, I see 4 tabs, feats, character, misc, and rules. in rules, I see the ability to add a skill proficiency, but no skill bonus. 

--
--Paul Grosse
--PCGen BoD, PR Silverback
@Nylanfs


Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Edward Beckwith
 

under feats and abilities, I see 4 tabs, feats, character, misc, and rules. in rules, I see the ability to add a skill proficiency, but no skill bonus. 


Re: Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Paul Grosse
 

Feats and abilities, GM awards


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Edward Beckwith
<lordq42@...> wrote:
 So my DM has granted me a +1 to any chosen skill, and under 3.5 it would have been straightforward, just increase the skill. but in 5.0 I don't see a simple way to do this. I imagine a custom template or even a "magic item" with the property would do, but I'm not really sure how to do that. 

--
--Paul Grosse
--PCGen BoD, PR Silverback
@Nylanfs


Adding 1 skill point in 5e

Edward Beckwith
 

 So my DM has granted me a +1 to any chosen skill, and under 3.5 it would have been straightforward, just increase the skill. but in 5.0 I don't see a simple way to do this. I imagine a custom template or even a "magic item" with the property would do, but I'm not really sure how to do that. 


Re: More issues with RC2

markjmeans
 

I have no experience in Java. Nor do I find any professional need to learn it in my particular windows exclusive application development. Nor do I want my current C# coding speed diminished by errant thoughts of a similar language like Java.


From: Stefan Radermacher
Sent: ‎12/‎15/‎2018 9:30 AM
To: main@pcgen.groups.io
Subject: Re: [pcgen] More issues with RC2

Hey Mark,

so if you're a profssional programmer, why not help out with issues that
are bothering you personally, but where the code team does not have the
time or opportunity to work on? Everyone can submit a pull request.

Cheers,
Stefan

Am 15.12.18 um 18:15 schrieb markjmeans:
Reread my request again. I haven’t asked for changing the PCGen UI
language based on Windows language setting. ONLY the paper format.

 

If you use PCGen and export a PDF with the A4 setting, then load the PDF
in Acrobat you see no obvious clues that the format was the wrong paper
size. But if you print it to a printer that has Letter paper size you
either get a print with margins that are not visible or you get a print
with shrunk blurry text.

 

Having been a professional programmer since MS-DOS 3.x, I feel that 99+%
of all “professional” Windows programs ever developed, starting with way
back in the Windows 286 days, have a default page size setting based on
the Windows culture setting or in later Windows versions based on the
paper size setting specified by the Windows’ default printer. Using the
Windows OS provided settings for printing defaults is the recommended
behavior for all Windows programs and not doing this detracts from the
intuitive nature and common behavior expected by any Windows user. PCGen
should do the same.

 

PCGen should either read the Windows culture specific settings, or read
the Windows default printer settings’ page size property and set the
PCGen A4/Letter size accordingly. This should be done at first run only,
or during the installation process or the page size setting drop down in
PCGen should have a new default option “OS Default” when using Windows.

 

 

 

*From:*main@pcgen.groups.io <main@pcgen.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*saxumcaribetum via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 1:30 PM
*To:* main@pcgen.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [pcgen] More issues with RC2

 

On 2018-12-14 18:30, markjmeans wrote:

 

And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long
standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should
detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set
the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don’t know how many sheets
of paper I’ve wasted because of this.

 

 

oh no! please do not rush to fulfil this request!

Like all too many programs, PCGen actually defaults to US/English in the
first place, and you have to fiddle to get it to "OS language".

Don't track the language!

There is already a "Paper Type" setting on the Preferences > Output
page, same tab where you set the output style sheets, and choose whether
to save output with PC, print spells, print weapon proficiencies, and
print default skills.

A really useful page of settings.

--

Neil Taylor "Creo Imaginem Mente"

ArM Code 1.5 5++ Ca++ R++p H++ ?L Y(96) T(5)- SG+++ G++++ P++ HoH(Ma++ Q+ Hg+) Fz(E)++ C++ :-) Cd++

Saga site at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/saxum.caribetum/

Sub Rosa Ars Magica zine - https://www.facebook.com/subrosamagazine/


Re: More issues with RC2

Stefan Radermacher
 

Hey Mark,

so if you're a profssional programmer, why not help out with issues that
are bothering you personally, but where the code team does not have the
time or opportunity to work on? Everyone can submit a pull request.

Cheers,
Stefan

Am 15.12.18 um 18:15 schrieb markjmeans:

Reread my request again. I haven’t asked for changing the PCGen UI
language based on Windows language setting. ONLY the paper format.

 

If you use PCGen and export a PDF with the A4 setting, then load the PDF
in Acrobat you see no obvious clues that the format was the wrong paper
size. But if you print it to a printer that has Letter paper size you
either get a print with margins that are not visible or you get a print
with shrunk blurry text.

 

Having been a professional programmer since MS-DOS 3.x, I feel that 99+%
of all “professional” Windows programs ever developed, starting with way
back in the Windows 286 days, have a default page size setting based on
the Windows culture setting or in later Windows versions based on the
paper size setting specified by the Windows’ default printer. Using the
Windows OS provided settings for printing defaults is the recommended
behavior for all Windows programs and not doing this detracts from the
intuitive nature and common behavior expected by any Windows user. PCGen
should do the same.

 

PCGen should either read the Windows culture specific settings, or read
the Windows default printer settings’ page size property and set the
PCGen A4/Letter size accordingly. This should be done at first run only,
or during the installation process or the page size setting drop down in
PCGen should have a new default option “OS Default” when using Windows.

 

 

 

*From:*main@pcgen.groups.io <main@pcgen.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*saxumcaribetum via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 1:30 PM
*To:* main@pcgen.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [pcgen] More issues with RC2

 

On 2018-12-14 18:30, markjmeans wrote:

 

And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long
standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should
detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set
the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don’t know how many sheets
of paper I’ve wasted because of this.

 

 

oh no! please do not rush to fulfil this request!

Like all too many programs, PCGen actually defaults to US/English in the
first place, and you have to fiddle to get it to "OS language".

Don't track the language!

There is already a "Paper Type" setting on the Preferences > Output
page, same tab where you set the output style sheets, and choose whether
to save output with PC, print spells, print weapon proficiencies, and
print default skills.

A really useful page of settings.

--

Neil Taylor "Creo Imaginem Mente"

ArM Code 1.5 5++ Ca++ R++p H++ ?L Y(96) T(5)- SG+++ G++++ P++ HoH(Ma++ Q+ Hg+) Fz(E)++ C++ :-) Cd++

Saga site at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/saxum.caribetum/

Sub Rosa Ars Magica zine - https://www.facebook.com/subrosamagazine/


Re: More issues with RC2

markjmeans
 

Reread my request again. I haven’t asked for changing the PCGen UI language based on Windows language setting. ONLY the paper format.

 

If you use PCGen and export a PDF with the A4 setting, then load the PDF in Acrobat you see no obvious clues that the format was the wrong paper size. But if you print it to a printer that has Letter paper size you either get a print with margins that are not visible or you get a print with shrunk blurry text.

 

Having been a professional programmer since MS-DOS 3.x, I feel that 99+% of all “professional” Windows programs ever developed, starting with way back in the Windows 286 days, have a default page size setting based on the Windows culture setting or in later Windows versions based on the paper size setting specified by the Windows’ default printer. Using the Windows OS provided settings for printing defaults is the recommended behavior for all Windows programs and not doing this detracts from the intuitive nature and common behavior expected by any Windows user. PCGen should do the same.

 

PCGen should either read the Windows culture specific settings, or read the Windows default printer settings’ page size property and set the PCGen A4/Letter size accordingly. This should be done at first run only, or during the installation process or the page size setting drop down in PCGen should have a new default option “OS Default” when using Windows.

 

 

 

From: main@pcgen.groups.io <main@pcgen.groups.io> On Behalf Of saxumcaribetum via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:30 PM
To: main@pcgen.groups.io
Subject: Re: [pcgen] More issues with RC2

 

On 2018-12-14 18:30, markjmeans wrote:

 

And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don’t know how many sheets of paper I’ve wasted because of this.

 

 

oh no! please do not rush to fulfil this request!

Like all too many programs, PCGen actually defaults to US/English in the first place, and you have to fiddle to get it to "OS language".

Don't track the language!

There is already a "Paper Type" setting on the Preferences > Output page, same tab where you set the output style sheets, and choose whether to save output with PC, print spells, print weapon proficiencies, and print default skills.

A really useful page of settings.

-- 
Neil Taylor "Creo Imaginem Mente"
ArM Code 1.5 5++ Ca++ R++p H++ ?L Y(96) T(5)- SG+++ G++++ P++ HoH(Ma++ Q+ Hg+) Fz(E)++ C++ :-) Cd++
Saga site at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/saxum.caribetum/
Sub Rosa Ars Magica zine - https://www.facebook.com/subrosamagazine/


Re: More issues with RC2

saxumcaribetum
 

On 2018-12-14 18:30, markjmeans wrote:

 

And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don’t know how many sheets of paper I’ve wasted because of this.



oh no! please do not rush to fulfil this request!

Like all too many programs, PCGen actually defaults to US/English in the first place, and you have to fiddle to get it to "OS language".

Don't track the language!

There is already a "Paper Type" setting on the Preferences > Output page, same tab where you set the output style sheets, and choose whether to save output with PC, print spells, print weapon proficiencies, and print default skills.

A really useful page of settings.

-- 
Neil Taylor "Creo Imaginem Mente"
ArM Code 1.5 5++ Ca++ R++p H++ ?L Y(96) T(5)- SG+++ G++++ P++ HoH(Ma++ Q+ Hg+) Fz(E)++ C++ :-) Cd++
Saga site at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/saxum.caribetum/
Sub Rosa Ars Magica zine - https://www.facebook.com/subrosamagazine/


More issues with RC2

markjmeans
 

  1. The Windows uninstall entry in Windows > Settings > Apps & Features lists PCGen as “6.08.00RC1” as the product name and shows nothing for program title or version number. What is expected is that the program name, version number and publisher name fields be defined correctly in the installer so that the uninstall process follows Windows guidelines and is intuitive to Windows users. In my opinion this is a critical bug that should delay release until resolved. However, it should be a very simple one to fix. It’s a 30 second task using Microsoft installer projects within MS Visual Studio and I will assume it’s nearly as simple using the nullsoft installer that PCGen uses (but I have no experience with nullsoft installer projects). Whomever wrote the installer project should examine the project properties and correct them. This fix alone should require an RC3 version before going ahead to full release.
  2. A homebrew set that loads in RC1 will not load in RC2. See attached homebrew files. The error log does not indicate specifically what is wrong, i.e. doesn’t say which campaign is unable to load.

10:46:09.847 INFO main Main:138 Starting PCGen v6.08.00 RC2

10:46:09.967 INFO main LanguageBundle:134 Initialising language bundle with locale en_US.

10:46:19.673 LSTWARN main CampaignFeatToken:56 FEAT has been deprecated, use ABILITY: and put CATEGORY: entries in the LST file

10:46:51.613 SEVERE Thread-2 SourceFileLoader:248 Failed to load sources

pcgen.persistence.PersistenceLayerException: You must select at least one campaign to load.

                at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.loadCampaigns(SourceFileLoader.java:482)

                at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.execute(SourceFileLoader.java:244)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:72)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:40)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.SwingWorker$1.run(SwingWorker.java:160)

                at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

 

And while not a problem with RC2 specifically, there is a long standing problem with PCGen and the paper format. PCGen should detect the OS culture settings and if it is US/English, should set the paper size to Letter instead of A4. I don’t know how many sheets of paper I’ve wasted because of this.

 

 


More issues with windows installer

markjmeans
 

  1. The Windows uninstall entry in Windows > Settings > Apps & Features lists PCGen as “6.08.00RC1” as the product name and shows nothing for program title or version number. What is expected is that the program name, version number and publisher name fields be defined correctly in the installer so that the uninstall process follows Windows guidelines and is intuitive to Windows users. In my opinion this is a critical bug that should delay release until resolved. However, it should be a very simple one to fix. It’s a 30 second task using Microsoft installer projects within MS Visual Studio and I will assume it’s nearly as simple using the nullsoft installer that PCGen uses (but I have no experience with nullsoft installer projects). Whomever wrote the installer project should examine the project properties and correct them. This fix alone should require an RC3 version before going ahead to full release.
  2. A homebrew set that loads in RC1 will not load in RC2. See attached homebrew files. The error log does not indicate specifically what is wrong, i.e. doesn’t say which campaign is unable to load.

10:46:09.847 INFO main Main:138 Starting PCGen v6.08.00 RC2

10:46:09.967 INFO main LanguageBundle:134 Initialising language bundle with locale en_US.

10:46:19.673 LSTWARN main CampaignFeatToken:56 FEAT has been deprecated, use ABILITY: and put CATEGORY: entries in the LST file

10:46:51.613 SEVERE Thread-2 SourceFileLoader:248 Failed to load sources

pcgen.persistence.PersistenceLayerException: You must select at least one campaign to load.

                at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.loadCampaigns(SourceFileLoader.java:482)

                at pcgen.persistence.SourceFileLoader.execute(SourceFileLoader.java:244)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:72)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.StatusWorker.construct(StatusWorker.java:40)

                at pcgen.gui2.util.SwingWorker$1.run(SwingWorker.java:160)

                at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

 


[PFS] Skinwalker Boon #pathfinder

Paul Grosse
 

Mark or anyone else that playes PFS. There is somebody on Twitter asking about a boon this year that allowed the Skinwalker race. Is that implemented, and if so what's the steps to apply it to the char?

https://twitter.com/jameslkight/status/1073077239183564800

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Re: Pathfinder draconic Sorcerer troubles with equipment in 6.08.00 RC02 #pathfinder #bug

Andrew Maitland
 

Submit a bug report - https://pcgenorg.atlassian.net  under Data Bug, and we'll get it fixed.

Submit the character pcg file so we can see what is going on.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 12/13/2018 6:30 AM, Sorcerer of Itch wrote:
Hi,
I currently run into two issues with my Level 7 Pathfinder sorcerer of draconic bloodline:
  1. I give him a "robe of arcane heritage". In my reading of the rules this should now allow him to get a breath weapon as if he was Level 9, since the robe makes him Level 7+4=11 for bloodline features. This does not happen in PCGen.
    Can I correct this somehow?
  2. The weight of the total equipment is being miscalculated. Even though he has very little stuff and most of it is stowed away on his horse ("not carried"), there somehow is a lot of weight. Even after unequipping everything he has a weight total of 7.4 kg.
    How can I correct this?

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Re: Starfinder #starfinder #bug

Budder Hunter
 

thank u


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:22 AM Brad G. <brad.grinstead@...> wrote:
@Budder Hunter - I looked into the data files and the basic mechanics to purchase the abilities and upgrades were implemented, but the game mechanics were not.  I looked and you have indeed submitted a data request, so we will get to those as soon as we can.

As for  the Ability vs Misc modifiers, I'm not sure yet what is causing that, but I will look into it. The Starfinder character sheet was always a bastardized hack of the standard fantasy sheet, and never really had the love and attention it needed to work appropriately.

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