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Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Eric
 

heh...no power for a couple days and look what i miss :)
my 2 cents:
facebook, no, just on the (lack of) security and the "we sell YOU" aspects
google, no, based on their habit of randomly shutting popular things down with little warning (i still miss Reader...)
.io looks reasonable... easy to sign up to, at the very least?


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:39 PM solutionbuilder@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

if this group does move, please leave instruction to people like me that may not know how to get to the new location.  

Thanks


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Paul Grosse
 

We definitely will, there is a handy mass user import system that garbs all non-bouncing emails from Yahoo but we will make sure that everyone is aware of when/if we do that so people aren't signed up for something they didn't want.

--Paul Grosse
--PCGen BoD, PR Silverback.


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

G Della-Croce
 

if this group does move, please leave instruction to people like me that may not know how to get to the new location.  
Thanks


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Martijn Verburg
 

No objections here is it that Y! is no longer fit for purpose?
Cheers,
Martijn


On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 13:18, nylanfs@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Well groups.io seem fairly simple and straight forward.


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Paul Grosse
 

Well groups.io seem fairly simple and straight forward.


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

allencohn
 

I also prefer a “push” system rather than a “pull” system.

I also have had very good experiences with Google Groups (not referring to G+).

Allen

 


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Joe Barrett <barrettjg@...>
 

No need for Facebooks spew of trash or security issues.   A mailing list fits the bill. 

-Joe Barrett
(sorry got typos, keyboard is mighty small)

On Nov 3, 2018, at 6:24 PM, Aaron K aaron@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:

 

I think it's safe to say that some of us don't use facebook (for a variety of reasons [privacy!]).  A newsgroup, email-style mailer like this one is the best solution IMO.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:08 PM Bruce Gray gurpsgm@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Well, Google has announced that they will be shutting down G+ at the end of next year.  What's wrong with Facebook?

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When the world is ready for a new and better life...
All this will someday come to pass..
In God's good Time."
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Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Aaron K
 

I think it's safe to say that some of us don't use facebook (for a variety of reasons [privacy!]).  A newsgroup, email-style mailer like this one is the best solution IMO.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:08 PM Bruce Gray gurpsgm@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Well, Google has announced that they will be shutting down G+ at the end of next year.  What's wrong with Facebook?

--
Bruce Gray
========================================
"There -is- hope for the future.
When the world is ready for a new and better life...
All this will someday come to pass.
In God's good Time."
Captain Nemo's Last (?) Words


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Robert Johnston
 

Let's start with "Everything" and go from there. Groups.io looks like a good option to me.


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 17:08, Bruce Gray gurpsgm@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Well, Google has announced that they will be shutting down G+ at the end of next year.  What's wrong with Facebook?

--
Bruce Gray
========================================
"There -is- hope for the future.
When the world is ready for a new and better life...
All this will someday come to pass.
In God's good Time."
Captain Nemo's Last (?) Words



--
Robert "Anaerin" Johnston


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Brad Fonseca
 

Groups.io does sound like a good solution, seeing as we're only looking
for a "newsgroup" style of application. I too prefer to respond to an
email on a thread from my mail application without having to go to a
specific site to respond. It sounds like we want something pretty no
frills that doesn't require a lot of administration.

How does one make a decision on this in this group? Do we need to vote?
Does someone need to volunteer to set things up?

It looks straight-forward enough to start a group. I'm willing to
volunteer to set up things initially and then hand things over to the
usual moderators from here afterwards. I could probably help with
moderation too if it's needed.

Thanks,

Brad

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On 03/11/18 03:25 PM, Jamie Mann reflexwolf@... [pcgen] wrote:
 

I haven't been active here in a while as I"m not playing the game much
due to RL hell, but on several other groups facing this problem 2 moved
to groups.io <http://groups.io> and the other to google, I have had
nothing but good experiences with the .IO groups, one of them is heavy
traffic with attachments with no problem. 

Just my 2 Cents worth.
Jamie.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 5:47 PM jessejmulkey@...
<mailto:jessejmulkey@...> [pcgen] <pcgen@...
<mailto:pcgen@...>> wrote:

__
 

Yahoo Groups ceased support in 2014 and has been on life support
ever since. The bugs are piling up every month. It will eventually
fail and all the history stored in this group will be lost to the
ether. Groups.io offers the option for existing yahoo groups to
migrate and make a copy on their superior platform and alert
existing members of the new platform. They have tech support and
wiki pages with details.


What do you think?


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Jamie Mann
 

I haven't been active here in a while as I"m not playing the game much due to RL hell, but on several other groups facing this problem 2 moved to groups.io and the other to google, I have had nothing but good experiences with the .IO groups, one of them is heavy traffic with attachments with no problem. 

Just my 2 Cents worth.
Jamie.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 5:47 PM jessejmulkey@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Yahoo Groups ceased support in 2014 and has been on life support ever since. The bugs are piling up every month. It will eventually fail and all the history stored in this group will be lost to the ether. Groups.io offers the option for existing yahoo groups to migrate and make a copy on their superior platform and alert existing members of the new platform. They have tech support and wiki pages with details.


What do you think?


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Juliean Galak
 

I'm not talking about G+.  Google Groups works pretty much like Yahoo Groups - it's all via email.  For files and such you can integrate with Google Drive, and that does require going to the platform, but that's true with yahoo groups as well.  But just for messages, it's simply email.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:34 AM 'Rob' mynex@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:


https://groups.io/ - overview

https://groups.io/static/features - list of stuff

 

A couple of my other groups use it… It’s fairly robust and open source friendly… and free.

 

I recommend it.

 

Mynex

W. Robert Reed III

 

From: pcgen@... [mailto:pcgen@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 8:46 AM
To: pcgen@...
Subject: [pcgen] Re: Should we move to groups.io?

 




G+ is getting closed down. Yahoo groups are slowly dying. The reasons we stayed with Yahoo is because it was one of the few places that could be replied to via email. Most everything else you can get a notification for a post, but you then have to go to reply.

 

Here are all the current ways to get PCGen info.

 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pcgen (when it gets fleshed out more and launches)

 

And of course these groups.

 

The biggest problem is that the project team has been shrinking in the last year, we desperately need coders to push some needed advances to the code base.








--
Juliean Galak
jgalak@...


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Rob
 

https://groups.io/ - overview

https://groups.io/static/features - list of stuff

 

A couple of my other groups use it… It’s fairly robust and open source friendly… and free.

 

I recommend it.

 

Mynex

W. Robert Reed III

 

From: pcgen@... [mailto:pcgen@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 8:46 AM
To: pcgen@...
Subject: [pcgen] Re: Should we move to groups.io?

 




G+ is getting closed down. Yahoo groups are slowly dying. The reasons we stayed with Yahoo is because it was one of the few places that could be replied to via email. Most everything else you can get a notification for a post, but you then have to go to reply.

 

Here are all the current ways to get PCGen info.

 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pcgen (when it gets fleshed out more and launches)

 

And of course these groups.

 

The biggest problem is that the project team has been shrinking in the last year, we desperately need coders to push some needed advances to the code base.





Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Paul Grosse
 

G+ is getting closed down. Yahoo groups are slowly dying. The reasons we stayed with Yahoo is because it was one of the few places that could be replied to via email. Most everything else you can get a notification for a post, but you then have to go to reply.

Here are all the current ways to get PCGen info.

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pcgen (when it gets fleshed out more and launches)

And of course these groups.

The biggest problem is that the project team has been shrinking in the last year, we desperately need coders to push some needed advances to the code base.


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Kenny Noe
 

Fwiw....    I would agree.

Kenny


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Bruce Gray <gurpsgm@...>
 

Well, Google has announced that they will be shutting down G+ at the end of next year.  What's wrong with Facebook?

--
Bruce Gray
========================================
"There -is- hope for the future.
When the world is ready for a new and better life...
All this will someday come to pass.
In God's good Time."
Captain Nemo's Last (?) Words


Re: Should we move to groups.io?

saxumcaribetum
 

I read and follow the e-mails; and sometimes post. E-mails arrive automatically, without intervention by me.

I really, really don't want us to channel all communications to a platform where
* you only see anything if you actively visit the platform
* there's low traffic on the portion you are interested in
* there's nothing else there of interest, so you don't go there generally.

That spells doom for these threads.

Never heard of "groups.io", so it's clearly even lower profile than Google+, which still staggers on, and its fans swear by it, but it *still* isn't The Place To Be.

On 2018-11-03 04:37, Aaron K aaron@... [pcgen] wrote:
+1

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:06 PM Juliean Galak jgalak@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 
I'm not active here much, but I do follow it.  I've been involved in many groups facing this issue.  Imho, moving to Google groups is the way to go.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 PM Norman Prather norman.prather@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
Not familiar with groups.io. This group needs to move somewhere though. I used to visit frequently it led me to try helping with some of the old files just doing the water carrying so the coders could code. I dropped my Yahoo account years ago and rarely check in now even though I use PcGen and would be willing to carry water.

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Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Aaron K
 

+1


On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:06 PM Juliean Galak jgalak@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

I'm not active here much, but I do follow it.  I've been involved in many groups facing this issue.  Imho, moving to Google groups is the way to go.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 PM Norman Prather norman.prather@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
Not familiar with groups.io. This group needs to move somewhere though. I used to visit frequently it led me to try helping with some of the old files just doing the water carrying so the coders could code. I dropped my Yahoo account years ago and rarely check in now even though I use PcGen and would be willing to carry water.

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Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Juliean Galak
 

I'm not active here much, but I do follow it.  I've been involved in many groups facing this issue.  Imho, moving to Google groups is the way to go.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 PM Norman Prather norman.prather@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
Not familiar with groups.io. This group needs to move somewhere though. I used to visit frequently it led me to try helping with some of the old files just doing the water carrying so the coders could code. I dropped my Yahoo account years ago and rarely check in now even though I use PcGen and would be willing to carry water.

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Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Norman Prather
 

Not familiar with groups.io. This group needs to move somewhere though. I used to visit frequently it led me to try helping with some of the old files just doing the water carrying so the coders could code. I dropped my Yahoo account years ago and rarely check in now even though I use PcGen and would be willing to carry water.