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Re: Please post to the Main list!

Jim Syler
 

"OldYahoo" is a poor name. It sounds like it's about Yahoo. Try OldPCGen. 

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On Nov 28, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Paul Grosse via Groups.Io <nylanfs@...> wrote:

This message group will be used as an archive for the old Yahoo list. Please post to the main list for new topics.

Group Email Addresses

Please post to the Main list!

Paul Grosse
 

This message group will be used as an archive for the old Yahoo list. Please post to the main list for new topics.

Group Email Addresses

Old Archives

Paul Grosse
 

This is where the old yahoo messages will go for archiving.

Re: D&D again!

josh skag
 

Thanks everyone I will table that Idea.  I just had several data sets so was just curious!

Re: D&D again!

dave_the_ferret
 

I went through a phase of updating the CMP datasets and finally came to the conclusion that it was *FAR* simpler to start from scratch - well, to be honest I ended up just adding the non-OGL bits specifically and then modifying the DESC statements for the OGL stuff already with PCGen.

And then I discovered BD's sources - and now use those pretty much solely, I can highly recommend, he's done a great job, and quite willing to add specific missing bits if you ask nicely ;-)

Reminder

Paul Grosse
 

Just a reminder, we will be transitioning away from the Yahoo Groups to Groups.io this weekend!


Paul Grosse

PCGen Bod, PR Silverback

Re: D&D again!

Andrew Maitland
 

Hi,

I did it once... It's a very painful, and time consuming process. Remember, PCGen 5.14 (released 7-18-2008) was the last officially supported version before CMP stopped updating the data due to License restrictions. We've had 5.16 9 months after that, and then 6.0, 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, and now we're on the cusp of 6.8.

I can say that in the last 10 years, quite a bit has changed.

Dare I even ask what book you need converted that isn't available from BD?

Cheers,

Andrew

p.s. All Yahoo Groups are being migrated to Groups.io  -  https://pcgen.groups.io/g/main


On 11/20/2018 8:08 AM, jscag41@... [pcgen] wrote:
Thanks I found Bahamut github it is awesome!  What about converting the old CMP datasets how do I go about it? 

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Re: D&D again!

josh skag
 

Thanks I found Bahamut github it is awesome!  What about converting the old CMP datasets how do I go about it? 

PCGen v.6.08.00 RC1 Released

Andrew Maitland
 

The PCGen Team is pleased to announce that PCGen v.6.08.00 RC1 has been released. We believe this to be a stable version for the next 6.08.00 Production Release.

DOWNLOAD SITE:  https://github.com/PCGen/pcgen/releases/tag/6.08.00RC1

What's new for v6.08.00RC1

PCGen v6.08.00RC1 is released as a RELEASE CANDIDATE from our development branch. This is the culmination release that we believe will be the next production release. This is a Stable release. Please give it a shot and let us know how it works for you. Some notable changes in the 6.08.00RC1 release are listed below.

Notable Changes


Prerequisites

Java 9, 10 or 11. PCGEN 6.08.00RC1 is not compatible with Java 8 (or earlier) and it is NOT SUPPORTED. To get the latest version of Java, go to AdoptOpenJDK. PCGen has been tested with Java 9, 10 & 11 (including OpenJDK). Be aware that due to Oracle Licensing, and lack of availability we are recommending OpenJDK alternative. AdoptOpenJDK also have JREs (Normal Java) for the end users that is not installed and may take an extra couple of steps to make work. If this is not something you want to worry about, then please use the WINDOWS INSTALLER version of PCGen, as this comes with embedded JREs for both x86 and x64 Windows OS's

Instructions

IMPORTANT! The PCGen Web server hosting is down, please direct all help inquires to our alternative Media Channels

IMPORTANT! All Email Links using @pcgen.org will not work, and any website with pcgen.org will not work at this time.

A big thank you to all our community and volunteers. 

 Andrew on behalf of the PCGen team.

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Moving forums/mailing list

Paul Grosse
 

Hello, it's your friendly PCGen PR Silverback here, and in case you were wondering why you are getting this we felt that it was important enough for everyone to be aware of this that we switched everyone that had selected the "No Emails" option to the "Special Announcement" option.

After exploring as many options as we have been able to find the PCGen Board of Directors has settled on moving from the Yahoo! Groups to https://pcgen.groups.io. We are sending this message out as a special announcement so that many of you will get the information as possible before the scheduled move.

The process is mostly painless from the average users experience. There is an automated user list import process that will import every user that is confirmed (and not bouncing) user name, it will import your current email setting frequency and you will receive a welcome email asking to confirm your subscription. This will take place roughly within a week of the sending of this email.

If you don't want to be included in the import, simply unsubscribe from the main list here and you won't be imported. There is also a unsubscribe link in the groups.io welcome email.

Read below for the history of why this is being done.

Also for those of you that choose to contact the PCGen team via other avenues. Here are all the ways to interact with the team and other users.

Email: help at pcgen.org

History Lesson

Way back in 2007 we started having issues with how the Yahoo groups were acting when posting emails (delays, missing emails, etc.), they were frequently getting broken (and at one point the entire group completely vanished for close to a month), and a host of other minor issues. So we started exploring options on moving away from Yahoo.

But then user base were split on the features that everyone wanted.
A few people didn't want to move
Some people were okay with moving but would like a mailing list function.
Some people wanted forums (which we eventually did start but are sparsely used and a magnet for spammers)
Some people were okay with a move but REQUIRED a mailing list.

And an added issue is the email address that Bryan used to setup the mailing lists in 2002 doesn't exist and so we no longer have full control over the forums (Andrew and I have both talked to Yahoo support about this).

Groups.io has the mailing list functions, forum functions, sub group functions (instead of the seperate yahoo groups they can be brought under one account) that we want, and the interface is cleaner, doesn't have ads, and passes the EFF's privacy tests. Plus it isn't owned by Verizon which was a concern when they purchased Yahoo last year.




Paul A. Grosse
PCGen Board of Directors
PR Silverback


Re: D&D again!

DC
 

PCGen comes bundled with the SRD, which is fine if you just want the basics (maybe best for newbies). 
Effectively the 3 core books, plus Unearthed Arcana and Psionics Handbook.

If you want a more complete dataset, you'll have to find a homebrew one (or enter it all yourself).
One I'm aware of is by BahamutDragon. If you google that name, you should be able to find it.


On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 12:35, jscag41@... [pcgen] <pcgen@...> wrote:
 

Coming back to D&D after 12 year absence teaching a younger group of players 3.5 "it's what I know".  I have a bunch of old datasets from CMP and was wondering will those work with new version of PCGen?  Is there something newer out there that would be better to use?

Thanks!


D&D again!

josh skag
 

Coming back to D&D after 12 year absence teaching a younger group of players 3.5 "it's what I know".  I have a bunch of old datasets from CMP and was wondering will those work with new version of PCGen?  Is there something newer out there that would be better to use?

Thanks!


Re: PCGen v.6.07.10-BETA Released

Paul Grosse
 

Here's a link to the release page. :)

PCGen v.6.07.10-BETA Released

Andrew Maitland
 

PCGen is pleased to announce the release of PCGen 6.07.10 Beta.

Notable Changes:

  • Data bugs fixed
  • Starfinder Preview Sheet Fixed
  • New Formula System Stabilized

For the full detail on all changes made in this release, check out the release notes here:

https://github.com/PCGen/pcgen/releases/download/6.07.10/pcgen-release-notes-60710.html

As you can see, the work for 6.08.00, the next stable release, is progressing well! So for the brave and the bold, please do try out this beta and give us your feedback.

PCGen is a RPG character generator and maintenance program (d20 systems). All datafiles are ASCII so they can be modified by users for their own campaigns. Please join us at https://pcgen.groups.io/g/main/topics or visit our site http://pcgen.org

Public Relations Team PCGen Project


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Board Meeting Summary - 2018-11-10

Andrew Maitland
 

http://wiki.pcgen.org/Meeting_2018_11_10

Summary

  • Production Release planned for December 1st
  • Revised Documentation Hosting
  • Revise Wiki for Code Entry into the new system
  • Finish License Reviews of outstanding new sources



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Hear ye, hear ye, Board Meeting in 12 hours!

Andrew Maitland
 

PCGen member will be conducting a public meeting for the project, and release schedule. See link for local time:

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20181110T1400

Since Discord seems to have the most public accessibility - we will host the meeting in the board_meetings channel: https://discord.gg/WZS65Ee

Use that link for access.

See you all there.

AGENDA:

1) State of the Program and release update plans

2) Reports from Content, Code and PR

3) Additional Business (If any)

4) Public Q&A

Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Joel Fischoff
 

With some editing (mostly order, unnecessary parts of the header and an intervening step at Comcast):

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:26:52 -0600 (CST)
X-Received by resomta-ch2-14v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 22:26:52 +0000
X-Received by mta4002.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 22:26:53 +0000
X-Received by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2018 22:26:53 -0000
X-Received by m11.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2018 22:28:07 -0000

So, it took about one second to get from Comcast to Yahoo, then a little over a minute to get to that next step there, and then...

Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic324.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 01:44:03 +0000

... over three hours to get to the mail gateway? Then another two minutes *exactly* (which makes me wonder if one or the other's clocks are just off that way) to get back to Comcast. Well, you know what my vote's likely to be. Or will in three hours...

Then again, there's the old adage, you get what you pay for. Yahoo may have been capable of dealing with mailflow two decades and who-knows-how-many companies ago, but maybe they just can't anymore.

On November 5, 2018 at 4:26 PM Joel Fischoff wrote:
if this group does move, please leave instruction to people like me that
may not know how to get to the new location.
It's been a while since I transferred a group to groups.io, but if I
remember correctly, it will transfer the entire mailing list, with the
possible exception of anyone who is currently bouncing. So long as
you're not bouncing, you should just start getting messages from the
new list.
That said, it would probably just require updating the various web
presences with the new address.

Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Jamie Mann
 

As I remember when other groups I'm on migrated it sent out instructions to all members to how to do it. was easy and quick, and its really fast in sending out mail you sent to the group. 

Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Joel Fischoff
 

if this group does move, please leave instruction to people like me that
may not know how to get to the new location.
It's been a while since I transferred a group to groups.io, but if I remember correctly, it will transfer the entire mailing list, with the possible exception of anyone who is currently bouncing. So long as you're not bouncing, you should just start getting messages from the new list.

That said, it would probably just require updating the various web presences with the new address.


Joel

Re: Should we move to groups.io?

Paul Grosse
 

And that right there is worrisome. I replied about 30 minutes after the previous email about making sure to let users know. And it took more than 2 hours for it to post.


Paul A. Grosse